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I swear if I see one more fucking lib freak out about tiktok "it's owned by the chinese!" bullshit I'm going to explode

not only is it owned by *a chinese company*, not "the chinese", but ahh yes, hate to be spied on by the chinese state! far better to be spied on by the US state which has actual power over my life

consider the way american media talks about "the chinese" and the threat they pose to you, the innocent american

orientalism is alive and well

@SeanAloysiusOBrien i like having the companies who spy on me be spread out so i can always keep them guessing

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@SeanAloysiusOBrien They're not mutually exclusive.

It's pretty safe to assume that any software put out by a chinese company has chinese spyware in it.

Software from American companies only *probably* has spyware in it.

@Anarkat

the software is inherently spyware because the FBI can just ask for people's information without a warrant and most tech companies will hand it over

@Anarkat

and this is without getting into the NSA's program connected to parts of the internet "backbone"

@SeanAloysiusOBrien That still misses my point. The strawman you've knocked down is that people complaining about chinese spyware don't care about american spyware. That's a false dichotomy.

@Anarkat

I'm saying that people are being racist and most of this has very little to do with any real threat the chinese government poses to them

@SeanAloysiusOBrien The growing Chinese middle class is taking their newfound wealth and using it to speculate on housing markets in other countries, hoarding property, and driving up the cost of housing. This is a fact. Is this also racist?

@SeanAloysiusOBrien Nice deflection. Glad we could have this reasoned discussion.

@Anarkat

@SeanAloysiusOBrien

Did you miss the whistleblower that exposed how the biggest American software does contain spyware, 100% confirmed?

@SeanAloysiusOBrien I mean to be fair, most chinese companies are in the pocket of the state, and bytedance is no different, but

would I rather be spied on by the Chinese who squints want to sell me something

or the US who want to rig elections, and possibly add me to a registry of trans individuals

@Breakfast

yeah I have no illusions as to barriers between state power and these companies on either side it's just frustrating that the logic is only applied to Official US enemies instead of "oh but did you know that's owned by the Americans!??"

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