hilarious to get a reply like "because your admin is a SJW cuck they have prevented you from seeing this terribly important post!!!" *posts a screenshot of a reply from shitposter.club (we're defederated) that's spouting some anti-communist propaganda*

this same person also dug through months of my posts until they found one where my image caption was like "this is some right wing screed that I'm not going to caption" and we're like "so what?!?!? only sighted people deserve to read right wing screeds??!??" lol talk about bad faith

oh and ofc there was another reply from someone saying "To be honest this is conditioning people to accept living like people in China. Its not a good meme."

you love to see the sinophobia jump out lmao

@dsfgs

dang the sinophobia jumped out

@SeanAloysiusOBrien
We call out blatent sinophobia, but this meme is indoctrination. So the plebs accept an unhealthy lifestyle while the one percent and policy makers enjoy the benefits of open spaces, easy access to regenerative environments and green space, and access to workers from their remote island locations.

Overdevelopment is also a terrible strain on the environment, global SandMafia is a big part of that.

@SeanAloysiusOBrien
This meme is a false choice, there are plenty of vacant properties out there, if govt really was serious.

Building these flats is a social, and environmental disaster.

@dsfgs

ok "person who thinks australia has enough people already" person

@SeanAloysiusOBrien
Have you been to this desert country, mate?

@dsfgs

no, thank god

@SeanAloysiusOBrien
Haha, well let's just say its not the easiest place.

We have to be a net exporter of foods also in order to balance our books. Yet up until coronavirus, ppl were leaving the land for cities. Its been a mess thanks to financialisation and speculation and yes overdevelopment and universities setting themselves up as glorified property developers etc.

We don't need bogger cities. Quite the opposite.

Anyway, see you on Fedi.

@dsfgs @SeanAloysiusOBrien hey i'm a bit late to this discussion but have you tried having less white people in australia? that seems like it could help with the overpopulation problem you claim to be having. cheers!

@esvrld
Let's just say, in Australia (and other overdeveloped places), anyone who has more than a particular number of children, we can't have much… time… for, yes.

Don't make this about race, please.

Overpopulation and overconsumption are both issues.

@SeanAloysiusOBrien

@dsfgs @esvrld @SeanAloysiusOBrien i have 33 milfs overconsuming my ass, they just love eating it

@dsfgs @esvrld @SeanAloysiusOBrien anyway, have you read thomas layon's paper "refutations of the malthusian idea of overpopulation"

@a_lizard
Malthus is not wrong, but the can has been able to be kicked down the road with a few tricks, that are coming to a head.

Malthus had a third theory, that ppl embrace limits to expanding, which also shows that he's not actually wrong.

You could say he covered all the bases. :)

Having said that #Malthusianism has been abused in the past. We must be careful not repeat those, but sadly many appear to be trying to.

@esvrld @SeanAloysiusOBrien

@dsfgs layon cold rock lmao

@a_lizard
We are though, haha.

Bye for now.

@dsfgs @SeanAloysiusOBrien

@deathtoamerica
Erm… so apparently this person blocked us for exposing the false choice that transnational property developers try to push on us.

@dsfgs @SeanAloysiusOBrien that's just not true. haven't you read Wolfgang Liechminne's famous description of the homeless problem in socialist China?

@RussellsBarbershopQuartet
Haven't you seen that not even Chinese people want to live in China anymore?
@SeanAloysiusOBrien

@RussellsBarbershopQuartet @SeanAloysiusOBrien
The meme is a classic example of false choice.

@dsfgs @SeanAloysiusOBrien let me summarize it for you: this reply is a classic example of someone who needs to LIECHE MINNE DICK AND BALLS

@RussellsBarbershopQuartet @dsfgs@activism.openworlds.info @SeanAloysiusOBrien the fact that we already have this instance blocked from here is getting in the way of this absolutely beautiful dunk

@ItsMorgan @RussellsBarbershopQuartet @SeanAloysiusOBrien 🔨

@dsfgs @SeanAloysiusOBrien shut the fuck up AuSStrailian

@georgespolitzer
Enjoy the false choices.

@dsfgs @SeanAloysiusOBrien damn i hate to be conditioned to want to live in apartments as opposed to park benches

@PhoebeWallerPalladino
See #emptyHomes.

There were 80,000 empty homes in #Australia. Years ago before the #constructionBoom we didn't need.

But let's all close our eyes and enjoy the #falseChoice served to us.

@dsfgs so give the homes away. seize them from the banks and developers. simple as

@PhoebeWallerPalladino
See Progressive #LandTax (based on improved/rental value).

#HenryGeorge #georgism etc.

@dsfgs @SeanAloysiusOBrien lol wow dude

@geesehoward
See other branch of discussion to learn some of the factors involved, and why highrise is a false choice.
@SeanAloysiusOBrien

@dsfgs @SeanAloysiusOBrien Our expectations on housing are now so low that Plattenbau is considered "gentrification"?

@SeanAloysiusOBrien @dsfgs Hong Kong under the British replaced physically and mentally unhygienic and unsafe slums with high-rise residentials with subsidized rent, raising the living conditions for the population. I am 100% in support of this. Today's HK public housing continues in the same spirit. The private housing market is insane, but the majority of people live in public housing.

Leaving any genocides and political persecution aside, in terms of housing policy in mainland China's growing cities, the same process is happening there and it's great.