centrists, 2016: it's fine. he'll probably tack to the center so he doesn't get impeached.

centrists, 2019: my god. there's going to be a revolution.

the empire is in freefall my dudes 😎

so uh anybody wanna help my family emigrate 🙃

@garbados Honestly I think the US is one of the safer places to be, except Canada. Pretty much everywhere is going to have the same problems we're facing, a lot of them /because/ of us, but with the added burden of lots of population movement.

We're kinda isolated and underpopulated, and in a big picture way, that's an advantage.

@emsenn what kind of advantage is being systematically excluded from economic participation, healthcare, education...? living under the gun of untouchable fascists? those macro concerns are no concern at all when you're dead, when they have already killed too many of your friends

@emsenn i just. sure. fascism is on the rise everywhere. but, for example, germany is not a collapsing superpower. new zealand is not a collapsing superpower.

@garbados I think viewing this as the collapse of a hegemony is a bit myopic, when there are similar collapses in many nations right now, in addition to our diminishing ability to rely on our climate. This is, even in the opinion of the shareholder reports, a shifting of our global order into a plutocracy that is able to allocate a diminishing pool of natural resources. I don't think there's a place you can move to avoid it. At least here there's fewer people.