fucking hell I did read the Forerunner Saga and basically remember none of it

I even forgot that 343 Guilty Spark is actually an ancient human who got his humanity removed and turned into a Monitor by the Forerunners

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The Forerunner Saga is some buckwild scifi shit seriously

its so fucking weird

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there is so much Halo lore and basically none of it is in the games

so like its really easy to forget all that shit even if you've read some of the novels

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also that Forerunners have names like

Shadow-of-Sundered-Star and Bornstellar-Makes-Eternal-Lasting

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"Bornstellar asks 343 Guilty Spark if he would light the Halo array were it his choice, to which he doesn't reply. This is later referenced in Halo: Combat Evolved where the monitor tells John-117 "Last time, you asked me, if it was my choice, would I do it? Having had considerable time to ponder your query, my answer has not changed. There is no choice. We must activate the ring.""


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fun Halo fact:

the Covenant owe their technological progress to the Forerunners because they found Forerunner tech on Forerunner Shield Worlds they found


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"The Shield Worlds were built by the Forerunners in their vast empire, as refuges from the Halo Array's pulse. However, the betrayal by the Forerunner AI 032 Mendicant Bias and its defection to the Flood forced the Forerunners to abandon their plans to evacuate into the shield installations, as Mendicant Bias revealed the locations of the Shield Worlds to the Flood."

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reading the page on Cortana and in the trivia section:

"There was going to be an alternate story in Halo: Combat Evolved in which John-117 rediscovered Cortana inside the control room and she had become mad with power, wanted to take over Installation 04 and ultimately, the universe"

excuse me what

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I shouldn't have read a bunch of Halo lore this morning because now I'm thinking

about how Cortana is a clone of Dr Halsey who is responsible for the extremely fucked up Spartan program which makes Cortana's kinda affectionate relationship with the Master Chief very very weird

and the fact that Cortana chose John-117 specifically to partner up with is just another bit of the weirdness

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have I mentioned how the Spartan program was specifically created to put down a insurrection against the UNSC?

how it kidnapped /children/ and performed genetic manipulations on them and how some of said children either did not survive or were permanently maimed by this?

or how the Forerunners have this Noblesse Oblige philosophy with their "Mantle of Responsibility" which Cortana has now taken up and likens it to a "benevolent" form of imperialism?

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or at a more fundamental level

UNSC (good and righteous soldiers)


Covenant (religious fanatics fighting a holy war, bad except for a chosen few)

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yeah Halo is just bad military sci-fi with fascist ideas sprinkled all throughout

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@packetcat didn't that one have uhhhhh generic old superalien with a ball, and some sort of b Plot that went nowhere about asshole new Spartans?

@Mainebot not really as far as I know

the Halo Wars 2 stuff happened but idk how much of that is connected to the events of Halo 5

@Mainebot apparently the Covenant if the latest Halo Infinite trailer that came out last week is to be believed

@packetcat Snehal ok but with no leadership? And fighting a civil war?? Even after halo 3??? Creatively bankrupt.

@Mainebot yeahhhhh

after Halo 5, I have no expectations for a good story, if its somewhat coherent I'll be okay with it

that's how low the bar is now

@packetcat you forgot to mention that the kidnapped children were replaced with clones that intentionally fell ill and died months later.

Old man ranting 

@packetcat This just matches my initial take from way back. Marathon had an interesting and integral story with the game. Halo was "we need a shooter game".

@packetcat and so many of us ate it up as kids.

i still love the halo games i played but *yikes*

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