okay who made BDG read all the Halo novels oh god
fucking hell I did read the Forerunner Saga and basically remember none of it
I even forgot that 343 Guilty Spark is actually an ancient human who got his humanity removed and turned into a Monitor by the Forerunners
The Forerunner Saga is some buckwild scifi shit seriously
its so fucking weird
there is so much Halo lore and basically none of it is in the games
so like its really easy to forget all that shit even if you've read some of the novels
also that Forerunners have names like
Shadow-of-Sundered-Star and Bornstellar-Makes-Eternal-Lasting
"Bornstellar asks 343 Guilty Spark if he would light the Halo array were it his choice, to which he doesn't reply. This is later referenced in Halo: Combat Evolved where the monitor tells John-117 "Last time, you asked me, if it was my choice, would I do it? Having had considerable time to ponder your query, my answer has not changed. There is no choice. We must activate the ring.""
343 Guilty Spark pondered the question for a 100,000 years
yes I'm now reading stuff on a Halo wiki, thanks BDG
"The Shield Worlds were built by the Forerunners in their vast empire, as refuges from the Halo Array's pulse. However, the betrayal by the Forerunner AI 032 Mendicant Bias and its defection to the Flood forced the Forerunners to abandon their plans to evacuate into the shield installations, as Mendicant Bias revealed the locations of the Shield Worlds to the Flood."
reading the page on Cortana and in the trivia section:
"There was going to be an alternate story in Halo: Combat Evolved in which John-117 rediscovered Cortana inside the control room and she had become mad with power, wanted to take over Installation 04 and ultimately, the universe"
excuse me what
so yeah, the plot of Halo 5 basically
I shouldn't have read a bunch of Halo lore this morning because now I'm thinking
about how Cortana is a clone of Dr Halsey who is responsible for the extremely fucked up Spartan program which makes Cortana's kinda affectionate relationship with the Master Chief very very weird
and the fact that Cortana chose John-117 specifically to partner up with is just another bit of the weirdness
have I mentioned how the Spartan program was specifically created to put down a insurrection against the UNSC?
how it kidnapped /children/ and performed genetic manipulations on them and how some of said children either did not survive or were permanently maimed by this?
or how the Forerunners have this Noblesse Oblige philosophy with their "Mantle of Responsibility" which Cortana has now taken up and likens it to a "benevolent" form of imperialism?
or at a more fundamental level
UNSC (good and righteous soldiers)
Covenant (religious fanatics fighting a holy war, bad except for a chosen few)
Tom Clancy is clapping in his grave
yeah Halo is just bad military sci-fi with fascist ideas sprinkled all throughout
@packetcat you forgot to mention that the kidnapped children were replaced with clones that intentionally fell ill and died months later.
@BrokenBiscuit god its all so fucked up
@packetcat Don't forget, the UNSC are the "good guys"
@packetcat what do you MEAN halo is American?
Old man ranting
@packetcat This just matches my initial take from way back. Marathon had an interesting and integral story with the game. Halo was "we need a shooter game".
@packetcat and so many of us ate it up as kids.
i still love the halo games i played but *yikes*
@sixthhokage95 yeah for real
definitely a "problematic fave" for me nowadays
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